sinnsyke:

what is okay:
• to be uncomfortable with a ship
• to hate a ship
• to be disgusted by a ship
• to have reasonings behind it
• to explain your reasonings behind it

what is not okay:
• to tell shippers to kill themselves
• to tell shippers they’re disgusting
• to intentionally harass shippers
• to be a dick to someone because of something that makes them happy

I will never understand the whole ‘shipping the protagonist with the villain’ thing.

acceber74:

quigonejinn:

there’s a popular post circulating that defends how dominant m/m ships are in fandom, and there are about 349802304 parts of it that make me irritated, including the terrible statistical analysis, but the part that makes me outright roll my eyes so hard that I CAN SEE BACK IN TIME is the part saying that a component of why male/male slash dominates is because most of the well-written relationships in the canon are between dudes

because anybody who has looked critically at the juggernaut m/m ships in fandom knows this is absolute bullshit.  people should ship whatever the fuck they want, but let’s be honest, because tell me

how many lines do the two dudes in the biggest inception ship say to each other in the movie

how many lines do the two dudes in the biggest james bond ship say to each other in skyfall

how much time does mad max: fury road actually spend with the warboys, and how much time does fandom spend on them

why the fuck is there, despite three critically acclaimed seasons, comparatively little orange is the new black fanfiction

why the fuck, despite five critically acclaimed seasons featuring actual canon, well-developed, charismatic queer characters engaged in actual canon, well-developed, varied relationships with other characters, some of which are explicitly sexual and queer, does the wire only have 87 fics on ao3?  the sentinel is more than a half-decade older, has 1.5 fewer seasons, and well, 10308 fics tagged for it?

if well-written, well-developed-in-the-canon relationships were actually the primary component of why fandom shipped dudes together, why the fuck is there so little fic in mcu fandom about tony and steve with their respective black male bff’s, particularly jim rhodes who has appeard in so damn many movies with tony stark and yet  so 

much

more

fandom attention about each of steve and tony wiith white dudes

tl;dr: m/m slash is dominant in fandom, and people should ship what they want, especially if they ship it because parts of their identity are marginalized – but let’s not fucking kid ourselves that racism and anti-blackness and misogyny  aren’t huge, huge drivers of what fandom chooses to be interested in, both in terms of picking ships within a given canon, and in terms of what kinds of canon it finds appealing.  ‘well-developed’ has little the FUCK to do with it, except that we’re more inclined to view three scenes and six lines between two white dudes as establishing a ‘well developed’ relationship that we want to explore.  and not, y’know.  three movies with lots and lots of tony stark and his best friend who he has known since college and finds him in the desert and saves the world while wearing a cute minty-green polo????