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Jacqueline from Ever After!

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itspileofgoodthings:

I love Jacqueline! She’s the reason I always want there to be a nice stepsister in the Cinderella story even though, as far as I know, she’s the only one of her kind.

But that is the thing I love about her the most. She embodies the beautiful and heartening idea that kindness can be found in unexpected places. And in her case that isn’t a happy accident; it’s to her credit.

It’s true that Jacqueline is positioned to be sympathetic to Danielle because her mother and Marguerite don’t treat her very well either—they’d throw her under the bus in a heartbeat if they had to—but that still doesn’t mean she had to be kind. She could have tried to avoid being lumped in with Danielle by being extra cruel to her and by trying to win her mother and sister’s “favor” by flattery. The temptation to that was probably pretty high as a potential defense mechanism against their cruelty.

And instead she doesn’t. She shows Danielle kindness. It’s in small ways at first and not necessarily the most “heroic”—it’s realistic in that she doesn’t have the courage or even the means to stop the cruelty—but she’s there to help afterwards and that IS a balm. My favorite scene with her is when she takes care of Danielle’s wounds after she’s been whipped—pause to think about @byjoveimbeinghumble saying that Ever After is the DARKEST version of Cinderella and how that is achieved without any extra twists to the story—not just because it’s relieving to see someone take physical care of Danielle but because she says “she shouldn’t have said that about your mother.” Which Danielle needed even more than the treatment of her wounds. Jacqueline reminds Danielle that there are people who care, that there are people who aren’t cruel, that not everyone is out for themselves at the expense of human decency. And she needs to know that not just so the memory of her mother can be saved from cruel words, though that too, but so she can stay sane and remember that this isn’t the reality of the whole world, just that of two particularly awful people.

It’s such a gentle scene and such a truthfully sister scene (when they both start laughing about Danielle punching Marguerite it is the CUTEST) and what I love is that the movie shows you that Jacqueline means that moment of kindness beyond only the moment itself. By the end of the movie, she has fully separated herself from her mom and sister and is instrumental in the fact of Danielle’s happy ending and so gets her own instead of the fate that befalls her mother and sister.

She’s a beautiful example and reminder for me that people can change, even from within a rotten circle, that we aren’t divided into inflexible camps of good and bad but that we all have choices to make and they can be different than those expected of us or forced on us. By position, Jacqueline isn’t a “good” person; she’s one of the enemy. But by the end of the story she isn’t because she hasn’t let herself be. And that is so hopeful. We need to pay attention to the Jacquelines of the world to give us hope and also to remind us that a total “us” against “them” worldview is wrong and false, that we have to see people as individuals who are capable of changing and choosing different paths than the one they’re on at the beginning.

showmey0urfangs:

Lestat vs Claudia - The boy is mine

Something that I noticed but that I see no one talking about – maybe because it’s super obvious but, I find it fascinating that Lestat seems to view Claudia as a romantic rival rather than in any parental way.

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Lestat resents Claudia for having Louis’ love and attention while he is desperate to get Louis to notice him, to the point of considering lighting himself on fire.

We see this again in the scene where Louis is wallowing about Claudia (again) whereas as Lestat, an adult with “considerable considerables” as he says, is being completely ignored by him.

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Lestat is close to tears, but he also seems resigned to the situation and he leaves to go see Antoinette who will, no doubt, give him a bit of that tlc he’s not getting from Louis.

When Claudia comes back, the minute she says she’s there to take Louis, Lestat goes full Brandy vs Monica in “The boy is mine.”

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He starts insulting Claudia, trying to diminish her in Louis’ eyes. He calls her “a destitute little girl destined to live an inconsequential little life.” but Claudia sees through his tactics and calls him out.

You can see the look of sheer panic on Lestat’s face when he realizes that none of his pleas to Louis are working and Claudia is about to essentially steal Louis from him.

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His violent outburst is very much a “if I can’t have him then no one can” type of thing. He is frustrated that Louis would leave him so easily for someone he considers lesser.

Then you have that gut wrenching scene where Claudia says “let him go, it’s me you want.” and calls Lestat uncle Les again but he laughs it off because he does not see Claudia that way, he never really has.

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She’s always been a rival threatening his place in Louis’ heart. Like he says, he never chose Claudia, he only tolerated her because she was a means to an end, a way for him to keep Louis.

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I’m curious to see how Lestat will try to win over Louis again after his violent display, and what Claudia will be willing to do to stop him.

geoffrard:

geoffrard:

Why did we stop talking about the manson girl outfit? The manson girl outfit made so many of the other outfits make sense to me. I wanna talk about the manson girl outfit.

Let’s talk about more than that, though. Let’s talk about the textually feminine costumes—by which I mean the costumes that clearly and explicitly invoke femininity—that Gerard has worn on stage. Let’s talk about how all of them have referenced traditional American archetypes of female cultural and social power.

I want to offer one way of reading these outfits. Not the only way, of course. Also, I don’t mean to reach any concrete conclusions about Gerard’s gender, though I don’t think that anything I’m saying here contradicts anyone’s attempt to do so in any direction. Often I see dissections of these outfits supporting the point of Gerard’s gender non-conformity without addressing how or why he chose a specific manner of playing with gender.

To me, it’s incredibly obvious how intentional and deliberate these choices are. And I think a failure to recognize these outfits as a specific artistic choice does Gerard a disservice. Exploring the layered motivations for a specific kind of gendered expression does not preclude these costumes from being an important, interesting, and personal manifestation of gender nonconformity. In fact, I’d say it supports that interpretation even more.

Okay, all that said! As I mentioned earlier, the Manson Girl costume triggered these thoughts. I saw very little discussion of the costume at all, which I think is a shame.

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[source: Trish Badger]

I know why; people struggle to talk about cults and the people involved in them. Obviously, it’s a complex issue that requires nuance. Full disclosure, I am a cult survivor myself—and thus am uniquely acquainted with the complexity of victimhood and culpability for cult members from my own deconstruction journey.

But I think that Gerard intentionally chose to dress up as a female cultural symbol that embodies this uncomfortable gray area. Actually, I don’t think it’s the only one meant to evoke that frustrating moral ambiguity. The First Lady, The Nurse, The Teacher, The Cheerleader, The Devoted Follower—all of these important American archetypes symbolize feminine power, victimhood, and violence. When Gerard performs these identities on stage, he offers commentary on his own role in American society. 

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[sources from left to right: Laurie Fanelli; Steve Pedulla; Jess Williams; Scott Raymer]

Sophia @sendmyresignation pointed out to me that these are not just important figures within general Americana; they hold significance within rock music specifically. Rock relies on the convenient metaphor of these women at their worst. The cheerleader stands in for every girl who never saw successful men for their worth; the female teacher stands in for oppressive authority figures holding men back. The Manson Girls, too, have become a cultural icon for music to evoke. Their violent, mindless devotion to Charles Manson (and more overtly, their beliefs surrounding the Beatles and Helter-Skelter) is an obvious parallel to the crazed devotion of fans to celebrity musicians. 

These representations of women are generally pretty misogynistic, as the songs that invoke them create distance between the successful male musician and the women who don’t understand them. But not here. Not right now.

Gerard, the rockstar, the cult leader, the most powerful person in the room when he’s on stage, takes these figures that are traditionally degraded by people in his position, and takes on their societal role. He’s not the president; he’s the president’s wife. He’s not the cult leader; he’s the cult leader’s devoted follower. He’s not the doctor you respect; he’s the nurse you trust. He’s not the man looking back with scorn at the popular girl who never noticed him in high school; he’s the cheerleader drowning in equal parts admiration and ire.

My Chemical Romance occupies a position within American society that allows them to wield substantial economic and social power. But every ounce of power they gain from their position in the industry further constricts them to specific roles, a specific life. And with more power comes the ability to cause real harm.

The female figures of Gerard’s costumes represent the only socially prescribed and socially approved avenues for women to obtain power. These women can’t be the politician, but they can exert influence over him as his wife. They can’t control the adult men in their lives, but they can teach children. They can’t go to medical school, but they can make many of the life-or-death decisions for their patients.

These positions—the First Lady; the Nurse; the Teacher; the Manson Girl; the rockstar—allow for violence, intentional or otherwise. In a horror context, these figures unsettle because of the blurred lines of culpability and victimhood they convey. This uncomfortable feminine danger is obvious with the Manson Girls, who committed brutal murders in the name of the abusive man who brainwashed them, but these other female archetypes exert power over others as a reaction to more abstract misogyny.

The nurse costume, for example, references in part the Nurse Ratched character, the heartless, sadistic caretaker of the all-male psychiatric care facility in One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest. Even the adored Jackie Onassis, benevolent as her image is, represents a strata of American society akin to an untouchable nobility, an American aristocracy that only occasionally reached out to those below them.

Their violence cannot be separated from their victimhood. Their victimhood cannot be separated from their violence. The condition of their subjugation lends them the very power it limits.

Just as Conventional Weapons used military service as a metaphor for the predatory music industry, Gerard’s choice to wear these outfits can be read as specific commentary on his own institutional power, on his own ambivalence about his role as cultural nobility. He arguably occupies one of the highest positions in society one could achieve; yet as much as this empowers him, as much as this is the life he chose for himself, it also constricts him. It is uncontrollable. It can cause harm. Not so long ago, after all, the media demonized MCR as creating a subculture that glorified self-harm and suicide. Gerard wears the same dress and cardigan as members of a violent cult as someone who has been accused of starting a violent cult himself on multiple occasions and by no small number of people.

I think, too, that it shouldn’t be taken as a coincidence that he has chosen to perform as these specific women, these feminine figures who find power through their compliance in and performance of constrained, gendered roles. There’s something to be said about the stage, by nature a confined space, being a place where gender nonconformity can be expressed safely, where the costume can be put on and taken off, where it is expected to be put on and taken off.

It’s a distinctly feminine demonstration of horror; it’s a horror best expressed through the feminine.

triflesandparsnips:

stede bonnet is weird about touch

The beginning of a four-part journey of overwhelming nonsense, featuring more research than was strictly necessary. But fuck it, here we go.

Figure 1. Local man commits to least possible physical interaction imaginable with new fiancee.

Gif from Our Flag Means Death. A closeup of a man's lace-cuffed hand reaching out to very carefully touch the shoulder seam of a woman's off-the-shoulder brocade dress. It's part of a pose between two people who've just had their marriage arranged. The man is very noticeably touching as little of the woman as possible, and not her skin at all.ALT

Because it was driving me bananas that I was picking up on this thing that very few others seemed to notice, and also because I am desperate for a particular brand of hurt/comfort Stede-fic in this fandom:

I watched the entire series again and made up a bunch of charts detailing all the ways Stede is touched, touches others, and the degree of “closeness” of those touches.

You can find the finished product here – first page is an overview, and remaining pages are breakdowns of each episode, including notes. If I missed something, or you disagree with a classification, pop in a comment. (You can also see my progress and original notes here.)

Broadly, though:

Stede is both touch-starved and touch-sensitive. And you can see it on the screen.

Because there’s so much here, this essay got ridiculously fucking long. As such, I’ve divided it into four parts – links to each section will be at the bottom of each post, but I encourage people to engage with whatever part of it they want.

Why is this important, though? Why go to all this trouble?

  1. I think this behavior tells so fucking much about Stede, and that understanding his relationship with touch is crucial to getting a more rounded idea of his character.
  2. I’m this close to calling it criminal that we aren’t more thoroughly acknowledging how much nuanced work Rhys Darby and his various scene partners put into this, holy shit.
  3. I want to see this in fic, damn it.

And with that, finally:

✨~My evidence, let me show you it.~✨

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1. Stede wants to be touched, but is afraid of it.

Stede expects either violence or withdrawal from loved ones (or ones he’s supposed to have a close relationship with, at any rate) if he’s done something to displease them.

  • Nearly every memory of Stede’s father involves this on some level: blood on Stede’s face (and castigating him for his squeamishness), yanking Stede’s arm, bending over and getting into his face specifically to yell at him, and not looking at Stede when Stede’s essentially asking for comfort prior to his marriage.
  • Some of Stede’s memories of Mary at the dinner table show her as angry and physically distant from him (regardless of whether that memory is an accurate one). This is repeated later in episode 10 when we see her and the children again on the opposite side of the table.
  • The anniversary gift scenes in episode 4 are particularly telling: When Stede gives Mary his gift, he starts by dropping to a kneel next to her, his arm up on the table near her – and then Mary, over the course of realizing what he’s done/doing, proceeds to retreat from him three times – once a little ways, then again farther to the other side of the chair, and then finally leaving her chair entirely to face him. As Mary does that, Stede mirrors her retreat, a few beats behind and in reaction to her withdrawal, finally standing from his kneel, curling into himself, and losing his consistent eye contact with her.

Figure 2. Totally okay and not-at-all concerning body language in response to an upset life partner.

Gif from Our Flag Means Death. A married couple in historical dress, Stede and Mary, are in their dining room. Mary pushes up angrily from her chair and turns to yell at Stede. A beat after her, Stede slowly rises from a kneel and clasps his hands, closing himself off tightly.ALT

Originally posted by ierospit

  • Ed reinforces this belief when he leaves the Revenge with Jack (immediately after Stede has actually expressed anger at someone he believes is Ed’s friend).
  • Considering all this, when Ed almost immediately runs off to find a dinghy in episode 10, leaving Stede alone right after he’s participated in an act that’s transgressive on multiple counts (gay AND cheating on his wife, tsk tsk)… well. It may not be what Ed intended, but there’s a bit of Stede’s brain that thinks “Ed left; therefore I did something wrong.”

Interestingly, this means that Stede will sometimes initiate the withdrawal if he perceives that someone’s displeased with him.

This could be for a couple of reasons: if he does it first, it makes it a choice on his part rather than a rejection on theirs; likewise, if he does it first, then perhaps that might placate the other person (by removing his “wrongness” from their presence). Most likely it’s some kind of inseparable combination of the two. We see how this maladaptive practice bears out with:

  • Mary presenting Stede his anniversary gift. At the start of the scene, he stands next to her, leaning in slightly, with his hands to either side; when he realizes he’s insulted her, he doesn’t step away but he does clasp his hands in front of himself, effectively removing the possibility that he might accidentally touch her skin (or she, his).
  • Stede leaving Mary and the children.
  • Stede offering Ed a nature walk. Ed demurs (using language that implies Stede’s suggestion wouldn’t be acceptable to various people) and Stede actually subtly leans away from him as his smile drops. You can see it below, particularly if you keep an eye on his relation to the rope in the background between them.

Figure 3. The subtle tragedy of a man whose best friend has just said that maybe his interests aren’t actually that cool.

Gif from Our Flag Means Death. Two men in somewhat historical garb are standing on the deck of a ship, with an island in the background. They're discussing plans; the man on the left, Stede, is excited and leaning toward Ed, the man on the right. Ed demurs, and as he does, Stede very subtly withdraws and leans back, his smile dropping.ALT
  • Almost as soon as Ed lets go of Stede’s face following the beach kiss, there is a very slow distancing happening between the two of them.
  • Stede leaving Ed.

Finally, one of Stede’s ways of withdrawing from someone else’s “space” is by losing eye contact.

  • This is something he developed after childhood – while in flashbacks we see that tiny Stede holds eye contact solidly with Father Bonnet (and only turns his head away when he’s shocked by the goose’s violent death), by the start of the series he’s pretty awful with it (dropping his gaze when Olu shakes him; closing his eyes to hide from the Nigel “ghost”; eventually dropping his gaze when Mary yells at him about the model ship).
  • He improves over the course of the show and as he gains confidence, though it’s easiest to tell in scenes of threat/violence where he would previously have dropped his gaze– this includes his steady stare at Calico Jack when he orders him off the ship, his violent twist of Doug, and his anger at Mary after the murder attempt.
  • However, when he feels uncertainty, that trouble with eye contact comes back again… including, unfortunately when Ed asks him to run away to China.

Figure 4. Local baby gay in middle of sudden revelation as to own sexual orientation is faced with object of said revelation asking for a life-changing decision instead of just, like, double-checking the kissing thing some more

Gif from Our Flag Means Death. Two men in somewhat historical clothing sit on a beach. One man, Ed, has his back to the camera as he asks the other man, Stede, about whether he wants to escape the British and run away to China ("What do you say?"). Stede takes a deep breath, and his eyes drop down, one of many times he loses eye contact in the face of this discussion.ALT

Originally posted by mabellous

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ONWARDS:

-> Review the raw data and notes

-> Go to part 2: Stede will avoid touch to protect himself.

-> Go to part 3: Stede has found/developed “safe” ways to physically interact with people.

-> Go to part 4: The top three people who touch Stede, or who Stede touches, are Ed, Mary, and Izzy.

section-69:

I can’t for the life of me find the article now, but when doing dissertation research I found this one paper about Julian and Miles’s homoeroticism, and about how DS9 presents heterosexual marriage as the only ending, and I’ve been rotating thoughts about it for too long not to share. Partial credit to that one academic – I’d credit you properly if I was still allowed to access university resources (graduating is rough, lads).

So. Sisko’s story begins with his wife dying, and although most of the show centers his relationship with his son, by the end his marriage to Kasidy is So Important she’s the only person he says goodbye to. We have marriage as a satisfying (your opinion may differ) ending for Leeta and Rom, and Jadzia and Worf. Keiko and Miles are steady throughout – they argue realistically but their marriage is never framed as changeable. Conversely, the final villain (Dukat) is divorced, and the main villainous group (the Dominion species) is a mix of clones (fundamentally asexual) and beings without enough individuality to have marriage as a concept. Even Odo, despite not actually being married to Kira, needs romantic love to “redeem” him from the other Changelings – canonically it’s the only reason he doesn’t go join the fascists.

All of that makes Julian really interesting, because he refuses to stick with a woman. He has chemistry with some (him and Dax have some great moments imo) but it’s primarily friendly relationships rather than romantic ones (going by very strict 90s definitions of Friend, Lover, and Partner). We’re told he Was engaged, once, but called it off before marriage. Prior to the augment reveal, his main relationships are with Garak (another single man – dangerous because we have to be hetero here), Jadzia (married woman, can’t give him the ending the narrative demands), and Miles (married man). I think part of why Julian and Garak have fewer interactions is Because of the augment reveal. Before that, one of Julian’s biggest character traits was that he was painfully Federation – here read Good and Conforming, not always successfully, but not poorly enough to matter, he was always going to settle down and marry a woman. But after we find out he’s augmented? That he’s been lying this whole time? That he’s not supposed to be here? That’s dangerous, that opens up possibilities. If Julian is Different from everyone else in an Illegal and Immoral way… you can see how, consciously or not, 90s writers would have issues continuing to pair him with a queer coded single man.

In comes Miles. I mean, he was already there, they’ve been friends for ages before season 5, but more so. Marriage in DS9 ends in two ways – death if you’re Starfleet, divorce if you’re not. And Miles is Starfleet (possibly the most Starfleet, since he’s from TNG and 100% human). Pairing Julian primarily with Miles is safe, because when they leave the bar Miles will always go home to his wife. Married men are allowed to be as homoerotic as they like in this story – divorce doesn’t happen to the good guys, and Keiko is rarely enough in the line of fire that an end to this marriage is unlikely. If Miles felt trapped in this marriage – and narratively speaking he totally is – he has a safe out for it now.

Julian and Ezri don’t need to marry to prove that he’s Good and Straight Enough – she’s already been married as Jadzia, and he is safely with the good guys with his homoerotic married friend. But ending with them as a couple solidifies it. The writers (according to the documentary) think they’ll stay together, and within the rules of this story they’re right. If Julian and Ezri are truly good, they don’t get a choice.

spyderfyngers:

sixstepsaway:

spyderfyngers:

Okay, so, class.

Hello, published historian here.

As much as I love the headcanon that maybe Izzy is nobility etc, I have bad news about the British class system pre-Industrial Revolution and even a century or more post-I.R.

Our Flag Means Death is of course a rubberband reality. But.

That boy’s highly likely going nowhere, my guys, he is vocally Liverpool-by-way-of-Wigan. He dresses functionally-but-smartly, but he curses, he spits, he’s comfortable walking alone in dangerous spaces and talking to the people who live there. He’s consciously coded as a skilled working class man. What that means in 1717 is… congratulations, you have one trade that’s been passed down to you and that’s your place, do not move, you do not pass Go.

Stede Bonnet? That’s the guy who can beat you to death with legal impunity. You probably brought it upon yourself.

Even a full century after Stede Bonnet’s reign of incompetency, a skilled and clever working class man could rise in the ranks of the British army - if he were an anomaly - but socially he would be shunned by his peers in rank. HARD.

A lot of young men fell into piracy the way most of us now fall into retail. We need money, it’s there.

So Izzy is a man who’s been born, grown up, and matured amongst people he knows with similar abilities and if he runs away before that (people rarely upped sticks with a full family pre-Industrial Revolution) he’d better have a marketable skill. A reliable way to learn or hone that skill? Boarding a ship as a child. And does that suck?

Oh boy, does it suck. We’re talking likely violent or contagious death, not to mention all the other things that can happen to unattended children. But at least you can learn. You can rise through the ranks. But society? Forget it, you dirty slag.

Because it gets worse! Stede fucking Bonnet, despite being the creme-de-la-creme of Barbados society, would have zero chance - I mean NONE - of being accepted in London by those he considered his equals. He was a dirty colonial, despite all his ruffles and marmalade and wealth, so imagine what Izzy had to look forward to. An unmarked pauper’s grave? Yeah. And space was at a premium, so as a working class person you could safely expect your bones to be turfed out into the river if someone else needed the plot. During a period when Resurrection was accepted doctrine, what this meant in spiritual terms was that poor people had no souls.

Have a go at tracing the grave of an ancestor from c.1700s Britain. Good luck.

So as much as it will be super cool to find out Izzy had a past in the Royal Navy etc etc - which would be super interesting and definitely plausible - it’s highly unlikely he’s anything other than bog standard working class. Maybe a working class boy who’s beaten the odds.

But if I were a young man in 1717 and a rich clueless dude boarded my ship with zero prior experience and wanted to take charge… I’d kill him.

I’d kill him so hard.

All of this is amazing, especially the historical commentary and the precise nature of “Liverpool-by-way-of-Wigan” because I knew it was Northern, but I couldn’t pin down the exact area and yeah you nailed it. I’m from that area, ha.

But I just want to highlight this one particular bit:

Stede Bonnet? That’s the guy who can beat you to death with legal impunity. You probably brought it upon yourself.

It is utterly and disgustingly fascinating to bear witness to this being re-perpetuated in real time, in 2022, in this fandom.

After all, a lot of people elevate Ed high above Izzy and then argue that he brought his maiming upon himself.

Thank you! I wrote this after sharing three bottles of wine at a party, so I’ve been terrified ever since that I’d just gone on a drunk rant.

Something I would add in the cold light of sobriety:

Obviously, Ed’s pain and sense of rejection is class-based but intersectional with his race, and you can’t separate the two. But assuming Ed and Izzy had similar upbringings in terms of class, hence their closeness and years of trust, it puts Izzy’s warnings and frustration in an interesting light.

Under the flag of Blackbeard, there’s power that transcends class. Blackbeard scares the shit out of everyone, and even though they don’t accept him, they respect him. Doesn’t matter if you’re an officer, a merchant, or a fellow pirate - you treat Blackbeard and his crew with awe. They’re still scum, but they’re scum that’s taken seriously, and that’s the best they can hope for.

So when Stede Bonnet comes along with zero experience, lots of money, and a belief that he deserves a place in the world of Blackbeard, it’s funny at first. “What kind of fucking idiot—?” But it’s also really, really insulting. You’ve got everything they’ll never have, Stede! Fuck off home to your servants! (Quick note: many gentleman referred to their housemaids as ‘Mary’, regardless of their real names, because who gives a shit what their name actually is.)

And then the unthinkable happens: Ed slips under Stede’s influence. It’s a worrying step down in Izzy’s view, and it’s a step down that gets people killed right from the start (that’s an important note - working class people will always die for the benefit of their social betters, and it’s worrisome that Ed doesn’t give a single shit). It’s reasonable for Izzy to think that this flight of fancy Ed’s got himself into will result in Ed’s death and the death of the legend of Blackbeard which has served as their only route to a higher place of esteem.

And this is all for a gentleman. Not an aristocrat. Stede is just a couple of notches up from trade, which somehow makes it worse because Ed has fallen for the first posho that’s shown him anything but disdain, and he doesn’t even have a title.

The tragedy of Ed wanting to learn the ways of an aristocrat is that he’s not even learning from an aristocrat. It’s cosplay. Izzy knows that, Ed would know that if he had a clear head, and Stede knows that but is too naive to consider it a problem.

Stede believes piracy equals freedom, and in a way he’s right. But that freedom comes with the price of death hanging over your head at all times. Stede can choose to walk into that world because he has the financial means of his class, and he can - however comedically - guard his class by calling himself The Gentleman Pirate and protesting that he’s working by different rules to all those other grubby guys. Even if Stede goes to jail for his crimes, he will be given better treatment, because he can buy it. (That’s how prison worked in 1717, you purchased bed, food, toiletries etc, and fuck you if you couldn’t afford it.)

Ed and Izzy and their crew don’t have the same luxury in reverse. They have to guard their legendary status violently, because unlike gentleman or aristo status, it can be taken away.

When Ed willingly signs himself away to the Crown and Izzy is visibly disgusted - “You want to lick the king’s boots?” - all of this is knocking around inside his angry little head. It’s revolting to him that Ed seemingly wants to capitulate to the class system and let himself fall to the bottom of the pile. He and Izzy have spent years together giving the class system the finger. And now this.

Ed encapsulates the sadness of realising no matter how brilliant you are, you’ll never rise above the station of your birth. Izzy is the rage of knowing that.

catbandits:

the black cravat in our flag means death as a symbol for the hold, negative or positive, stede has on the person who’s wearing it.

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when it’s shown mary’s life after stede left, she has no black cravat at all. she’s free of him.

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but then stede is back, and the black cravat enters the scene. mary is not free anymore, and she has a stede to deal with.

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stede decides to stay. the black cravat goes higher, and tighter, mary’s neck. like she is suffocating. and she is.

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stede fakes his death. he is gone for good. the black cravat gets down, mary can breath again. and soon, she will be free.


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when edward has his first real interaction with stede, look who’s there too. the black cravat. stede clearly has a hold in him. he’s hung in stede.

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then stede leaves. and different from mary, that freed herself when he did so, in edward’s case, it goes tighter up his neck.

the-moon-loves-the-sea:

Izzy’s voiceover suggesting he suspects Ed has no intention of killing Stede Bonnet, followed immediately by Ed teaching Stede dueling, makes me wonder. At first it looks like good fun, and then oddly intimate masochism, and then suddenly he pulls a real gun on Stede and says “Thus is the life! Act, or die!” (And, of course, teaches him how to be run through safely.)

Is he only (violently, Izzy and Jack-style) flirting with him? Is he mainly making good on his general promise to teach him how to be a proper pirate? Or is he very aware that he promised Izzy Stede would die, that Israel Hands is going to hold him to it one way or the other, and that Stede cannot hesitate to run a man through to live—or be run through safely if it comes down to it? I can’t help but think he’s trying to set up what comes next.

He doesn’t seem to resist Izzy’s order (and it’s an order) to kill him, but part of him had to know he couldn’t in the end—or that if it came down to it he’d want Stede to beat him. And he didn’t seem to believe Stede will survive the duel with Izzy, but I don’t think it’s for lack of hoping. I think even then he knew he did not have control of Israel Hands, and he’d better equip Stede to survive him than pretend he can make him stand down for the sake of Ed’s love.

leithianxx:

i’m just thinking about the moonlight scene and the Jenkins interview yesterday about Stede being an unwitting seducer and it just makes the scene so much more enjoyable to rewatch. From Ed’s perspective this guy is pulling the smoothest moves of all time, like the most forward, i’m about to sweep you off your fuckin feet lines, looks him right in the eyes and tells him straight up “i’m gonna make you fall in love with me rn.” And it COMPLETELY works on Ed like he can’t even breath he’s being so actively seduced. And even though Stede isn’t doing that on purpose at ALL it’s almost even MORE effective because he’s being so authentically genuine and truthful that he is just exuding pure kindness and love and insight into Ed’s soul. It’s just so funny to me thinking about how Stede has absolutely no idea what he’s doing to this man in that moment.

And it paints all future interactions with them with a completely different brush because one of them is consciously aware of the VIBEZ and one of them is only subconsciously aware. Ed thinks Stede knows what’s up so he is purposefully flirting in all their little moments but hesitates to do anything outright because he’s getting mixed signals from Stede, he just doesn’t know the mixed signals are because Stede doesn’t know that Ed knows that he’s feeling a vibe and Stede himself doesn’t even know what the vibe even means for himself.

It just really subverts the power dynamic that you would expect from this naive sunshine man meeting his broody hero. Stede holds all the power here and he has NO idea that he has Ed wrapped around his finger. Ed wants to leave bc he’s afraid of the intensity of his feelings and the mixed signals from Stede and Stede is like “no <3” and puts on a cute outfit and takes him on a walk and makes Ed stay. Stede says he doesn’t like Ed’s personality around CJ and Ed is so gutted he leaves FOR STEDE not for himself but to spare Stede from himself. While they’re being arrested Stede literally just SMILES at ed and ed signs his entire life away for him. 

I just think keeping all of this in mind is so important to understanding why their break up is SO melodramatic. Stede has unknowingly taken Ed on this emotional rollercoaster and he’s been at following around Stede at his feet like a puppy dog just WAITING for a sign that this is real and Stede isn’t toying with him so on the beach everything finally falls into place for the first time and Ed can finally just RELAX he isn’t crazy and the power dynamic has shifted so that they are finally on the same page, he doesn’t have to feel like he’s just pining anymore, they are equally in love and that is so reassuring and validating. AND THEN HE LEAVES. That is such insane emotional whiplash and he was wrong the whole time and he feels like a fucking idiot and he must be SO FUCKING CONFUSED. Because the moonlight scene it seems like Stede is being so fucking crystal clear about his intentions and how could he have possibly got all of this wrong, and he ws right the whole time because Stede kisses him back and agrees to run away but actually no he was WRONG the whole time but how??? and yet it also goes back to that exact same scene where Ed tries to kiss him and Stede doesnt return the energy where this dynamic becomes so unbalanced and murky

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