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Six Responses to Bernie Skeptics

wilwheaton:

robertreich:

1. “He’d never beat Trump or Cruz in a general election.”

Wrong. According to the latest polls, Bernie is the strongest Democratic candidate in the general election, defeating both Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in hypothetical matchups. (The latest Real Clear Politics averages of all polls shows Bernie beating Trump by a larger margin than Hillary beats Trump, and Bernie beating Cruz while Hillary loses to Cruz.)

2. “He couldn’t get any of his ideas implemented because Congress would reject them.”

If both house of Congress remain in Republican hands, no Democrat will be able to get much legislation through Congress, and will have to rely instead on executive orders and regulations. But there’s a higher likelihood of kicking Republicans out if Bernie’s “political revolution” continues to surge around America, bringing with it millions of young people and other voters, and keeping them politically engaged.

3. “America would never elect a socialist.”

P-l-e-a-s-e. America’s most successful and beloved government programs are social insurance – Social Security and Medicare. A highway is a shared social expenditure, as is the military and public parks and schools. The problem is we now have excessive socialism for the rich (bailouts of Wall Street, subsidies for Big Ag and Big Pharma, monopolization by cable companies and giant health insurers, giant tax-deductible CEO pay packages) – all of which Bernie wants to end or prevent.

4. “His single-payer healthcare proposal would cost so much it would require raising taxes on the middle class.”

This is a duplicitous argument. Studies show that a single-payer system would be far cheaper than our current system, which relies on private for-profit health insurers, because a single-payer system wouldn’t spend huge sums on advertising, marketing, executive pay, and billing. So even if the Sanders single-payer plan did require some higher taxes, Americans would come out way ahead because they’d save far more than that on health insurance.

5. “His plan for paying for college with a tax on Wall Street trades would mean colleges would run by government rules.”

Baloney. Three-quarters of college students today already attend public universities financed largely by state governments, and they’re not run by government rules. The real problem is too many young people still can’t afford a college education. The move toward free public higher education that began in the 1950s with the G.I. Bill and extended into the 1960s came to an abrupt stop in the 1980s. We must restart it.

6. “He’s too old.”

Untrue. He’s in great health. Have you seen how agile and forceful he is as he campaigns around the country? These days, 70s are the new 60s. (He’s younger than four of the nine Supreme Court justices.) In any event, the issue isn’t age; it’s having the right values. FDR was paralyzed and JFK had both Addison’s and Crohn’s diseases, but they were great presidents because they pushed forcefully for the right things.

“If both house of Congress remain in Republican hands, no Democrat will be able to get much legislation through Congress, and will have to rely instead on executive orders and regulations. But there’s a higher likelihood of kicking Republicans out if Bernie’s “political revolution” continues to surge around America, bringing with it millions of young people and other voters, and keeping them politically engaged.“

In any event, the issue isn’t age; it’s having the right values. FDR was paralyzed and JFK had both Addison’s and Crohn’s diseases, but they were great presidents because they pushed forcefully for the right things.“

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fruityfruityfruitloops-deactiva: I like Sanders' politics and history, but I worry that he won't be able to garner enough Congressional support to actually push through much legislation, especially seeing as how obstructionist Congress has become as of late. Do you think that he'll take the Obama route and just start writing Executive Orders for his biggest issues, or do you think he'll keep trying to work through a broken Congress?
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wilwheaton:

I’ve met with him, and asked him exactly this question. He told me that he can’t do it on his own, and needs people to go to Washington and demand that Congress listen to them. His election would, in itself, send a loud and clear message to the entire political establishment in America: we’ve had enough of your bullshit, and we’re not going to stand for it any more.

It won’t be easy to get Congress on board, and it won’t be easy to get things done, but it’s going to be that way for any president who isn’t owned by the Koch brothers. So I believe we put a president in the white house who will fight for the people in America who can’t fight for themselves, because they don’t have lobbyists or millions of dollars to buy candidates, and then we help that president by staying involved and forcing change.

It isn’t going to be easy, and it may not even happen during one or two terms of that presidency, but I know that Bernie Sanders is the only candidate running now who can at least start to make the real changes we all hoped Obama would make.

15 Fundamental Differences Between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton

wilwheaton:

1. Sanders has served as an elected official for over 34 years. Clinton has not.

2. Sanders has supported gay rights since the early ‘80s. Clinton has not.

3. Sanders wants to end the prohibition of marijuana. Clinton does not.

4. Sanders wants to end the death penalty. Clinton does not.

5. Sanders wants to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour. Clinton does not.

6. Sanders wants to break up the biggest banks. Clinton does not.

7. Sanders voted against the Wall Street bailout. Clinton did not.

8. Sanders introduced legislation to overturn Citizens United. Clinton did not.

9. Sanders refuses to accept money from super PACs. Clinton does not.

10. Sanders supports a single-payer healthcare system. Clinton does not.

11. Sanders refrains from waging personal attacks for political gains. Clinton does not.

12. Sanders considers climate change our nation’s biggest threat. Clinton does not.

13. Sanders opposed the Keystone XL Pipeline since day one. Clinton did not.

14. Sanders voted against the Patriot Act. Clinton did not.

15. Sanders voted against the war in Iraq. Clinton did not.

I will also add the differences in their support of the TPP. Bernie has lead the opposition to the TPP, while Hillary has been a major supporter until just a couple of months ago.

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“The next time you hear me attacked as a socialist—like tomorrow—remember this: I don’t believe government should take over the grocery store down the street or own the means of production, but I do believe that the middle class and the working families of this country who produce the wealth of this country deserve a decent standard of living and that their incomes should go up, not down.
 
   I do believe in private companies that thrive and invest and grow in America, companies that create jobs here rather than companies that are shutting down in America and increasing their profits by exploiting low-wage labor abroad.
 
   I believe that most Americans can pay lower taxes if hedge fund managers who make billions manipulating the marketplace finally start paying the taxes that they should.
 
   I don’t believe in special treatment for the top 1 percent, but I do believe in equal treatment for African Americans who are right to proclaim the moral principle that Black Lives Matter.
 
   I despise appeals to nativism and prejudice of which we have been hearing a lot in recent months, and I do believe in immigration reform that gives Hispanics and others a pathway to citizenship and a better life. I don’t believe in some foreign “ism”, but I believe deeply in American idealism.
 
   I’m not running for president because it’s my turn, but because it’s the turn of all of us to live in a nation of hope and opportunity not for some, not for the few, but for all.”

— Bernie Sanders
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micdotcom:

Bernie Sanders rejects $2,700 donation from pharma CEO Martin Shkreli

In the first Democratic debate of the presidential season, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders counted the pharmaceutical industry and Wall Street as the enemies he was “most proud of.” Maybe maligned CEO Martin Shkreli didn’t get the message? Sanders rejected his donation (the max legal individual contribution), and instead donated it.